We need to make money

[Tonkey]

My friends and i have been talking about ways to make money. We are thinking about selling stuff on a web sit or opening a store of sorts in the kalamazoo area. If anyone has any suggestion please feel free to share.

[steve]

Anyone know where I can sell a testicle?

[pygmypiranha]

Anyone know where I can sell a testicle?

dude we will never be able to do this... I had wanted to do this YEARS ago.

[Tonkey]

What do you mean we can't do it? Sure we can. We just need motivation and money or a giant lone. Im just worried that kalamazoo will not give use good sales if we do open something up. Thats why i think we should design a web site or something.

[pygmypiranha]

I almost wonder if we should look into opening our own computer business... like computer repair only we go to the person's house and fix stuff out of a vehicle.

[Tonkey]

That seems like a good idea too. Nacho and i think starting a paintball feild would be a good idea too. There are no paintball feilds in the kalamazoo area, so big bucks could be made.

[Kitty]

I think opening up a painball field would be a very good investment. It seems like almost everyone I know is into paintball hardcore, and the closest field is in South Haven, according to my knowledge. If you guys all put your heads together, you all could make a lot of money, and have a cool place to play paintball a hella lot closer than South Haven. I think if you guys wanted to do this, you could. You all know quite a bit about paintball. Go for it.

[pygmypiranha]

The paintball field sounds awesome... though I would be scared of a lawsuit backlashing in our faces should someone get hurt or someone's property broken.

[Nachofunk]

As long as we get a good insurance plan we don't have to worry about getting sued. Good safety measures should help with that too. I think it would be a great idea and pay off big time. There is nothing local as far as paint ball feilds go. They all in South Haven or Grand Rapids. There is a lot on Stadium that would be perfect. We should go check it out sometime.

[Tonkey]

If we attempt to start a paintball field we will have to do many things. First, we need to some how persuade the bank to lend use the money for the land and the start up costs. We are going to need more than one field so we are going to need a lot of materials to build with. Also we will need to build some kind of building to hoes all of our equipment: Rental guns, C02, Air, Paintballs, masks etc. Also, Nacho said we need some sort of insurance plan just in case someone gets shot in the face. We also need a parking lot. Another thing we need to think about is if we want to sell guns and paint out of the shop, kina like hole in the wall. Plus we need to find everything we buy cheaper so we can actually earn a profit.

[Pepper]

I have the best spot for the field on West Main. There is some land for sale there. All we need is a loan and then we pay it off when we make enough money back.

[Tonkey]

Yeah lets start a feild right in front of Hole in the Wall paintball. Think they would get pissed? :D

[steve]

Why would they get pissed? That would generate a lot of business for them.

[Tonkey]

True, but we would also take a lot of business from them at the same time. Also Hole in the Wall would take sales from us too. Just think if they had cheaper paint. Everyone would just run across the street. Paint would be the single biggest income factor in our paintball business.

[Nachofunk]

Not if we require that only feild paint be used. :twisted:

[Pepper]

None of you know what your talking about, until we actually do it. THe best thing to do would be talk to hole in the wall and work out a deal, -after all we have thier name on our jersey's remember?

[Tonkey]

Why would we want to work out a deal with hole in the wall??? So what if we have their name on our jerseys?? They are our competition in this game. And, do you really think I would still wear their jerseys if we started our own field?? No of course not!!!! I would wear a jersey with the name of our paintball shop on it. We are all fully capable of starting our own business without the help of any other paintball place if we do pursue this business. The only deal we would have to make with anyone is with the BANK!

[Pepper]

Bullshit! You know were never gonna start this. So stop trying to be a bad ass!

[Pepper]

Real money isn't in paintball anyway, do you see those guys that work at Hole in The Wall their nothing special. There has to be better ways to make money these days. Oh yeah, nobody give me any shit about what I'm saying. Because I really don't give a fuck!

[Tonkey]

O, I’m going to give you shit!! Since you know where the real money is why don’t you share with use. This post was started to find out ways to make money. Not to hear you bitch about why it’s not going to work. Did you read the title? Are you getting all defensive because I’m actually making sense or are you just confused? And please, if you don’t give a shit then STFU!!!!!!

[Pepper]

Your the one that told me to put shit on here, if you don't like then tough shit! It's not your forum smart ass!

[Tonkey]

Only post if you know what you are talking about an you can explain it with more than two Sentences.

[Pepper]

Your not really giving me any shit dude I think its hilarious. Oh yeah I stuck that period in there to make it 2 sentences. :)

[Pepper]

Blah Blah Blah - dude I didn't even read a word you said. I gave up after I saw that picture of your mom.

STUFU HaHaHa?

[Tonkey]

Ok dude its over. Lets not turn the furoms into a battlefield. STUFU?

[Nachofunk]

We could start buying up realestate, fixing it up and renting it out. Large initial investment but big payoff down the road. Just an idea anyway. I still think the best idea is the paint ball field. We just need to take the time to research what we actually need to do. Then we'll know if it is possible. Instead of just making speculation whether we can or can't, but I'm a firm believer in this project. I don't know much about what needs to be done, but I'm willing to help. STUFU?

[Kitty]

I really think that you guys could start up your own buisness. You're all very smart, and knowledgeable in different areas that coenside with what would need to be done to get things off the ground. The paintball field is a great idea. It may cost a pretty penny to start with, but the pay off would be more than worth it. If you guys actually go through with this, I'd be more than willing to help. I don't know much about paintball except for the fact that it's very popular around here, but I could help out with creative advertisements and a lot more if you guys go ahead with this.

[steve]

Tonkey, the idea was for a field, not a store. Trying to make all our money selling paint is a horrible idea. Any idea that requires more than about $10,000 of capital has no chance of working.

[Tonkey]

yeah, but the land is going to cost us a crap load. I think a good peace of land will cost us 100,000 dollars alone. Plus i think we can't really make a good profit just by leting people pay an entrence fee. On top of that we would still have to pay insurance and pay for meterials. So i defently think if we sell nothing else, we should at least sell feild paint and fill tanks.

[steve]

Exactly. If we had $100,000, we wouldn't need to start a business, which means that it's a stupid idea.

[Tonkey]

Its called a loan steve. You find a peice of land, build a paintball feild on it and buy insurance all for under 10,000 and i'll buy you a cookie.

[Pepper]

I think we should stop talking about this paintball field and actually do it! Don't you think that will answer all of our questions?

[steve]

If we could get $100,000 (not a chance), it would be several years before we could make a profit, so why not just get a loan and keep the money?

[Tonkey]

Steve that all depends on how profitable we are. if we pull 10,000 - 20,000 a month then we can easly pay back a larg loan. Thats always the risk, of starting a new business. You have no idea how much or how little your going to make.

[Nachofunk]

Steve's a pussy!!!

[Tonkey]

Fuck all the other guys. Its just going to be you an me nacho!

[Kitty]

You guys can count me in if you want to. I'd happily lend a hand.

[Nachofunk]

I'll start doing some research on it. See what I can find out. We just wont share the money when we get rich.

[Tonkey]

damn straight. And we will charge them double when they want to come play on our feild/ :P

[steve]

$20,000 a month? Maybe if we have a bar and strippers and one of us deals crack on the side. :roll:

[Nachofunk]

$20,000 a month easy

[Tonkey]

I’m about to do some basic math for you Steve. I know it’s going to be hard for you to understand, but try to follow along. Lets just say there are 30 days in a month. Still with me Steve? And then lets pretend we get on average (for a month) 10 people a day to come play paintball at our field. Now lets also say that these ten people each buy our paint at a value of 50 dollars a case. Simple math Steve 10*30=300. Then 300 people a month times 50 dollars a case = whoa 15,000 dollars. But here comes the catch. We still have to buy the paint from a wholesaler. I figure we can get a case on average cost of around 25 – 30 dollars a case if we buy bulk. $27*300 = $8,100. So then we take 15,000 minus 8,100, which equals $6,900 profit on paint alone. I don’t feel like going on but we also charge for air and the entrance fee, and whatever the hell feel like.


I will now be taking questions from the stupid department. Yes Steve that means you.

[mysterious bunny]

you guys are really on to something here..... and i bet i could do a lot to help....i happen to know a guy who does compressed air... and wants to get into the paintball field business... also... my mom has access to several business grants (aka free money to start a business) and can get a really good business loan..... i also happen to know a tank manufacturer and have some connections to get cheap paint and accesories..... so yeah,..... if you guys are serious about this paintball field stuff we could make it happen

[Kitty]

Hell yeah Anna! If these guys ever get around to actually making something happen, you should talk to your connections. And hell, if they don't start this...maybe we could run with the idea... :wink:

[TheShadyOne]

There is also money in auto accesory/ body shops. The only thing is I don't know if kalamazoo needs or can support another car shop. :?

[TheShadyOne]

I don't think its a bad idea to start a field, it's just that we also have to pay for all the overhead aka land tax, probably income tax and whatever other taxes buissinesses have. plus insurance is definitly not cheap. I say we will have to do a lot of research into the cost of taxes, insurance, and other costs of running a buissiness. If we work at we could get it to work, other people do. I just don't know how much money is really in it. also nobody is going to play paintball in the winter and we will probably get taxed on at least land tax. so we would have to make enough money in the busy summer months to pay taxes and overhead in the winter.

[Pepper]

Ok guys I talked to my dad and he said that when you buy land you are basically the rightful owner of it, except for taxes and all that shit. But if you want to build anything you have to have a contractors license - unless you don't build it then you would have to hire some one big $$$ he said. So we prolly need a little more than we thought. But good shit Anna!

[Tonkey]

Why don't we just find or buy an old mobile home, and set that bitch down right on the field. Paint Barts,Matts,Phils an friends paintball feild on it an call it good.

[pygmypiranha]

Definately cool stuff there Anna.

I am for the paintball field business. I feel we need to do research on getting loans and starting this out. Like what sort of buildings do we want on it. How should it look etc. I think we need to have a meeting and discuss this. Maybe even goto a bank and see if we can get a small business loan. Also starting the busniess we need a name and all that. So some stuff to think about and definately discuss! We need to meet and discuss this stuff.

[Ana72]

I think buy and sell is a good business.. Try it!